Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2016 10:54:47 -0500 From: Theodore Ts'o <tytso@....edu> To: "Jason A. Donenfeld" <Jason@...c4.com> Cc: kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, Andy Lutomirski <luto@...capital.net>, Netdev <netdev@...r.kernel.org>, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Linux Crypto Mailing List <linux-crypto@...r.kernel.org>, David Laight <David.Laight@...lab.com>, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@...gle.com>, Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>, Eric Biggers <ebiggers3@...il.com>, Tom Herbert <tom@...bertland.com>, Andi Kleen <ak@...ux.intel.com>, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>, Jean-Philippe Aumasson <jeanphilippe.aumasson@...il.com> Subject: Re: Re: [PATCH v7 3/6] random: use SipHash in place of MD5 On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 02:10:33PM +0100, Jason A. Donenfeld wrote: > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Hannes Frederic Sowa > <hannes@...essinduktion.org> wrote: > > following up on what appears to be a random subject: ;) > > > > IIRC, ext4 code by default still uses half_md4 for hashing of filenames > > in the htree. siphash seems to fit this use case pretty good. > > I saw this too. I'll try to address it in v8 of this series. This is a separate issue, and this series is getting a bit too complex. So I'd suggest pushing this off to a separate change. Changing the htree hash algorithm is an on-disk format change, and so we couldn't roll it out until e2fsprogs gets updated and rolled out pretty broadley. In fact George sent me patches to add siphash as a hash algorithm for htree a while back (for both the kernel and e2fsprogs), but I never got around to testing and applying them, mainly because while it's technically faster, I had other higher priority issues to work on --- and see previous comments regarding pixel peeping. Improving the hash algorithm by tens or even hundreds of nanoseconds isn't really going to matter since we only do a htree lookup on a file creation or cold cache lookup, and the SSD or HDD I/O times will dominate. And from the power perspective, saving microwatts of CPU power isn't going to matter if you're going to be spinning up the storage device.... - Ted
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