Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:53:39 -0500 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: PRINCE approach from hashcat On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:39 PM, magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> wrote: > If Atom includes this on GPU in a future version of ocl#cat it will run in > circles around any 'manual' work you can come up with, to the point that it > could compensate for a good deal of sofistication. That's why I like this > idea (I haven't tested it at all). Together with a cleverly crafted wordlist > it should do a fair job with very little user effort. > > There's no way it can ever replace Single mode though. That's a whole > different beast! Can incremental be expanded to (smallish)words that are commonly next to one another? You'd need a good dataset of real multi-word passwords, the trouble may be that the passwords are not delimited into words by spaces or other characters. I have had great success using IMDB titles, CDDB album/song names, and even idioms. nofatebutwhatwemake, myhovercraftisfullofeels etc... I even put forth (previously) a "soundex" or "metaphone" database or weighting system... so that it might be possible to crack something like kan'tstopmii or can'tstopme hopefully without much mangling, but I am no CS or programmer so I just talk out loud mostly :) Using Brad Tilly's WordMachine I was able to do some pretty complex things too as I recall. -rich
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