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Date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 02:41:47 +0200
From: magnum <>
Subject: Re: EXTRA characters.

On 2014-04-14 02:33, magnum wrote:
> Now bump CharCount to 38 and add a line "Extra = XY" in john.conf for
> that mode. It will now generate passwords using lower alpha, digits and
> those two upper-case characters. Check the tail for length 4 again and
> you'll see that the last candidate is YYYY. The first word containing
> any of the extra characters (a single "X") is #22984 when limited to
> length 4, but beyond 400 million if not (I aborted after a couple of
> minutes).
> BTW the "Extra" stuff is apparently b0rken in bleeding-jumbo. I'll have
> a look at that.

That was a red herring, it was because I did not bump CharCount. Maybe 
John should warn about that, or better use the Extra even if we exceed 
CharCount (just like when your training data has more characters than 


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