Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 21:37:45 +0100 From: magnum <john.magnum@...hmail.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Rulesets combination and logs On 20 Dec, 2012, at 17:14 , vadim vitaly <vadim.vitaly@...il.com> wrote: > Here are two features requests for john. By feature request, i mean ideas > for those who have the time, will and skills to dev something new for john > (thanks to them). > > First, it would be great to have the possibility to combine various > rulesets when starting a cracking job. > I mean something like that: > ./john hashfile -rules:best.rules -rules:leetspeak.rules -w:wordlist > This way it would be easier to crack password which are the result of two > rules (or more!), for example: n1nt3nd0!2012 (leetspeak + append > special4num) and keeping at the same time a clear and simple rulesets in my > john.conf. This has been discussed and is already on various wish-lists, including the one I use for not forgetting about things: http://openwall.info/wiki/john/wishlist > The other feature request is the possibility to have more verbose log. > Particularly, when cracking a password using wordlist and rules. It would > be great to have information like the original word used and the rule > applied. > The idea here is to make better stats about which combinations of word and > rules are the more efficient (and the same way which rules are absolutely > not efficient). > I know it is already possible to have the rule used to cracked a password > in the john.log file, would it be possible to also add the original > candidate word ? > Something like that would be perfect for parsing: > 15 0:01:17:13 + Cracked bobama_history0 (password / originalword / rule) That would be nice, yes. But it's not very easy to accomplish - at the time we get a successful guess we no longer "know" what rule or word created a certain candidate (due to buffers and stuff). We could add code for it, but it would hit performance. You can use --mkpc=1 for getting a 1:1 between rules and guesses in the log, but that too hits performance (sometimes a lot). magnum
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