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Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2012 09:48:29 +0100
From: Simon Marechal <>
Subject: Re: Hashcat BF++ vs JtR Incremental and Markov Modes:
 (was How does incremental mode works?)

On 11/12/2012 09:37, Per Thorsheim wrote:
> Without being anywhere near an expert on this subject, I'm guessing the
> presentations from professor Markus Duermuth & Norbert Schmitz could be
> of interest to the readers as well, since they also talked about Markov
> stuff? Markus was the supervisor for Norbert when he got his masters
> degree in spring 2012, where he built upon work from Matt. :-) Both
> presentations available from the Passwords^12 archive at

Very true ! They also demonstrate you can implement the filtering
technique that is in JtR so that they are generated in optimal order.

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