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Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 16:22:03 -0500
From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com>
To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: How does incremental mode works?

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Richard Miles
<richard.k.miles@...glemail.com> wrote:
> I was reading it and other documentation but it's very complex. For a
> non-math person or for someone that is not that technical, how could you
> describe the difference between incremental and markov mode? My
> understanding is that both use statistics and try better candidates not in
> sequential mode. However I don't understand how they are different.
I'd have no idea, Markov is hard for me to even attempt to use let
alone understand, I've said as much before on this list. The simplest
way to describe how they both work, is to statistically predict letter
combinations to try, but how they conclude which letter are more
likely is beyond me. I studied some CS in school, but was in over my
head then, I've been meaning to look into Soundex/Double-Metaphone
"indexed" words. It's a half-brained idea that probably won't pan out,
but if I get time I'll try to flesh out at least a test of it, just to
see if it can also "predict" likely words based on already cracked
passes.
> Thanks and sorry for dumb question.
No such thing, just my stupid answers (see above)
-rich

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