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Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2012 09:26:28 +0100
From: Simon Marechal <>
Subject: Re: How does incremental mode works?

On 14/11/2012 04:47, Solar Designer wrote:
> I am not aware of a head-to-head comparison between these.  That said,
> Simon Marechal (aka Bartavelle) will speak on a related topic -
> comparing several revisions of JtR's incremental and Markov modes
> (current and future) - at Passwords^12 in Oslo in just 3 weeks from now.
> Indeed, we'll post the slides online afterwards.

I did not compare them properly, but will try to do it in the future.
Until then, you should use markov instead of incremental as it seems to
perform much better against public leaks. The "only" problem is that you
must be able to estimate how long you wish to run JtR, and be able to
compute how many passwords will be tested as a result.

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