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Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2012 23:45:35 +0400
From: Aleksey Cherepanov <>
Subject: Re: Johnny 1.1, the GUI for John the Ripper

On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 02:24:10PM -0400, Rick "Zero_Chaos" Farina wrote:
> "'make install' way of installation was not tested."

Literally: 'make install' was not tested.
Nevertheless Johnny supports system-wide installation out of the box.
# cp johnny /usr/bin/johnny
and installation is done. I'll add it to the wiki.

> Really? What is is with password crackers with not wanting to be
> installed? john doesn't like being installed, hashcat doesn't like being
> installed, cryptohaze doesn't like being installed... it can't just be
> me that sees this as an issue can it?

First of all I'd say that there is a system-wide installable John the
Ripper: you could get one from your Linux distribution (and .pot will
be in user's home dir and available only to its owner).

I could guess that john does not want to be installed because it is
used for performance critical tasks, i.e. users are expected to have
different version/builds with different (maybe incompatible) settings.

Also I should admit that core john allows only one section of rules to
be used with wordlist (i.e. --rules does not accept argument) so 2
folders with john is the only way to run 2 wordlist sessions with
different rules simultaneously. With system-wide installation you
could not achieve that.


Aleksey Cherepanov

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