Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:26:45 -0500 From: Rich Rumble <richrumble@...il.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: 1337 aka Leet Rules Sorry to dredge this one back up... but for our organization I crack the "hardest" passes with l337 rules. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 04, 2010 at 12:35:32AM +0400, Solar Designer wrote: >> To produce all combination's of "e" to "3" and "o" to "0" replacements in >> a word containing 2 instances of each of these characters, you can use: >> >> %2e vap0 %2o vbp0 /e vcp0 /o op[o0] oc[e3] ob[o0] oa[e3] > > Actually, this can be simplified to: > > %2e op[e3] %2o op[o0] /e op[e3] /o op[o0] > In the lines below I've had some very very good success against our users I've been studying the RULES file more and more, number one to understand what you've sent me in this thread previously:) and B to better my own rules So far, I'm still using what you sent. #ea %4a op[a4] %4e op[e3] %3e op[e3] %3a op[a4] %2e op[e3] %2a op[a4] /e op[e3] /a op[a4] %4a op[a4] /e op[e3] %4e op[e3] /a op[a4] %3a op[a4] /e op[e3] %3e op[e3] /a op[a4] %2e op[e3] /a op[a4] These rules are ok, but they do produce duplicates and the target word itself in this case I'm only using qqQQaaaaeeee as a test. Would there be a way to replace A and E with 4/3 no matter how many times it occurs in the word, but still be iterative like it is now, rotating all possible combination's? I know I can use sXY to do all of them, but I have a feeling the preprocessor and rules may be powerful enough for the job. It took me a while to realize that op was overstrike/memorize so using M/Q/X so far in my trial and error methods hasn't yielded fruit. I've looked into trying to understand di/trigraphs as well as the frequencies that a/e/l/i/o/t (and others) occur in the english language to create more targeted instances of these rules, and not just create every possible combo by hand like I have been doing. Should I perhaps use some 1337 script to create more wordlists or fake pot files and create a chr file? I have yet to do this, I have created some 1337 wordlists, but I don't like to use them. I did, can't find it now, have a php script that would do this, I suppose I could feed wordlists mangled by the script to stdin, but if the preprocessor is capable I'd prefer it there as other can benefit from it now matter their platform. There are many more combination's of a/e/l/i/o/t I'd use as well. -rich
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