Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 04:11:31 -0400 From: "Matt Weir" <cweir@...edu> To: <john-users@...ts.openwall.com> Subject: Re: Re-ordered 'Single Mode' Ruleset In reply to Solar's comment: >> It is not clear whether you have full (or any) separation between your training and test sets >> when you re-order the rules. (You do say that you have such separation for your "UnLock" test, >> but that's another one.) The training and cracking sessions were run against different sets of one million passwords each, even though both of them came from the same disclosed list, (that's the amazing thing about having a list of 32 million passwords). I posted another blog entry showing the ruleset being run against two other password lists, (the phpbb.com list and the MySpace list). The short answer is that the re-ordered rules performed slightly better than the original single rule-set against the phpbb.com list, and significantly better, (in the first 500 million guesses), against the MySpace list. The post, along with the corresponding graphs, can be viewed at the following link: http://reusablesec.blogspot.com/2010/04/optimizing-jtrs-single-mode-follow-u p.html Matt Weir
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