Date: Tue, 19 Jan 2010 18:51:06 +0300 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: JtR 1.7.4 and jumbo patch update Matt, On Fri, Jan 15, 2010 at 12:17:35AM -0500, Charles Weir wrote: > I applied the john-1.7.4-jumbo-5.diff patch to the base 1.7.4 install, [...] > words: 10495949352 time: 0:00:39:31 100.00% (ETA: Thu Jan 14 23:02:37 > 2010) w/s: 4426K current: 9zzzzzzzthi$ > > Analysis: It appears that the bug has been fixed. In addition, it ran > significantly faster this time, (shaving a full 10 minutes off the > running time). While I wasn't running any additional programs during > any of the tests, I don't know if this was due to my computer, the > changes made in the update, or applying the jumbo patch vs. the base > install. Regardless, it's now almost twice as fast as version 184.108.40.206 > when comparing guess generation speed. This extra speedup (vs. clean 1.7.4) should be due to JimF's loading of the entire wordlist into the process address space (as opposed to reading it from the operating system for each rule separately, which is what clean JtR does). This code is currently in the jumbo patch. I intend to reimplement it in an official manner in a new development version. My changes between 220.127.116.11 and 1.7.4 were orthogonal to those made in the jumbo and JimF patches, such that even greater speedup is achieved when both kinds of changes are implemented at once - which is what you're seeing. After 1.7.4, I have started to make changes that are similar in spirit (and sometimes in code) to those previously implemented in the patches. I have included some of those into 18.104.22.168. So there's little speedup to be expected with 22.214.171.124 (and likely with some further 1.7.4.x development versions) when you're applying the jumbo patch anyway, but the code becomes "official", which means many things: availability (to those who are not using the patch), maintenance (now as part of JtR), quality, completeness, portability (some of these were relevant to the changes made so far, some I expect to be relevant to future changes). > http://reusablesec.blogspot.com You have some curious and relevant stuff in your blog. I think you should be posting about some of your analyses in here. Thanks, Alexander
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