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Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 17:38:49 -0400
From: Adam Turk <>
To: <>
Subject: RE: duplicate guesses with jumbo patch

> Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2008 07:19:04 +0400
> From:
> To:
> Subject: Re: [john-users] duplicate guesses with jumbo patch
> On Fri, Aug 29, 2008 at 04:37:09PM -0400, Adam Turk wrote:
>> #./john hashes.txt
> I sure hope you're not running JtR as root. It does not require root
> privileges (after you have possibly obtained the shadow file as root).

I was already logged in as root doing some system maintenance and didn't want to su to my user account.  Just being lazy.  I usually login as a user.

>> Loaded 6 password hashes with no different salts (LM DES [64/64 BS MMX])
>> BB (b)
>> A (a)
>> TESTTES (Administrator:1)
>> CDC (c)
>> DEDE (d)
> ...
>> The NT hash works fine now, but the NTLM hash still reports 6 hashes loaded
> Everything is correct here. (Well, except that it's "LM hash", not
> "NTLM hash" as you said, that "still reports 6 hashes loaded" for you.)
> One of your passwords is longer than 7 characters, so it corresponds to
> two LM hash halves, which are being loaded and cracked independently.
> This is addressed in the FAQ as follows:

You are of course correct I meant LM and not NTLM.  How could I have forgotten that the LM hash is split?  That of course answers the number of hashes issue.  I swear I don't usually make these kinds of errors.  Maybe it is time for a vacation.  A real one where I am not near a PC, laptop, the internet.  I might go into tech withdrawal, but it might be worth it :)

Thanks for helping the forgetful person.  Please keep up the good work.

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