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Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 00:39:41 +0300
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: vowels rotating

websiteaccess - please avoid over-quoting.

On Tue, Jan 15, 2008 at 10:06:39PM +0100, websiteaccess wrote:
>  I have tested your rules. it dosen't work.

I did test those rules prior to posting.  They do work as you had
described - with the severe limitations that I have described.

>  Create a wordlist, with the word "canape".
>  Add your rule
>  TRy to crack this hash (raw-md5) user:96f81f82b6783fd01dcebb120930bbb5
>  unable to get success (96f81f82b6783fd01dcebb120930bbb5 = cunope )

This is obvious: "canape" and "cunope" differ in the 4th character.  The
rules that I posted only work for lengths up to 3.  They are not meant
for actual use - they merely serve to demonstrate that wordlist rules
are, in theory, capable of doing what you have described, although
terribly inefficiently - up to the point where they're unusable for the
task in practice.

My advice to you was to use Perl or re-consider what you're doing, not
to use the rules that I posted.

Alexander Peslyak <solar at>
GPG key ID: 5B341F15  fp: B3FB 63F4 D7A3 BCCC 6F6E  FC55 A2FC 027C 5B34 1F15 - bringing security into open computing environments

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