Date: Wed, 5 Apr 2006 23:35:05 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Challenge : some results On Wed, Apr 05, 2006 at 09:27:07PM +0200, websiteaccess@...il.com wrote: > Le Wed, 5 Apr 2006 22:32:20 +0400, Solar Designer a ?crit: > > ... but you can further improve your results by simply picking the 255 > > cracked passwords and placing them into a 255-entry "wordlist". ;-) > > Well, If you don't have a supercomputer and not 15 years before you, > how crack maximum passwords ??? > -> have a very good short wordlist and some highly optimized rules. > > As you can see, more 4 millions words are not more effective than only > 72 000 specialized words. > Less words = less time to crack , no ? Indeed. But you've missed my point. I was saying that you didn't properly define your "challenge", yet you started to show the "results". Would a wordlist consisting only of the 255 cracked passwords be a proper winning submission to your challenge? With this ridiculous example, I also wanted to show that optimizing a wordlist for a particular password file does not necessarily result in a wordlist which is best for other password files. -- Alexander Peslyak <solar at openwall.com> GPG key ID: B35D3598 fp: 6429 0D7E F130 C13E C929 6447 73C3 A290 B35D 3598 http://www.openwall.com - bringing security into open computing environments Was I helpful? Please give your feedback here: http://rate.affero.net/solar
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