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Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2012 01:31:25 +0200
From: magnum <>
Subject: Re: Re: Re: md5 internals question

On 2012-06-29 13:33, Tavis Ormandy wrote:
> One final question, I would need to limit input to 15 chars (or 16, but
> would require two comparisons), would this make it useless to everybody
> else? (I work in security, but I do vulnerability research, so never need to
> crack passwords. I'm primarily interested in the optimization challenge).
> What sizes are typical salts? What is the absolute minimum input size I
> would need to support to be useful outside of rawmd5?

IMHO 15-16 is right about the limit. If you make it 8, I will say it's
approaching useless. But 15/16 is fine, longer passwords could be
cracked with Simon's version and they are pretty few.

I do not really get why you need this limit though. Anything less than
55 should be the same work from then on, no?


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