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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2012 06:33:02 -0800
From: Alain Espinosa <>
Subject: Re: Windows cracker benchmark comparison script

On 1/16/12, Solar Designer <> wrote:
> For MSCash (which is salted), I think it will make more sense to report
> raw hashing speed rather than passwords tested per second.  Then you'll
> be able to reasonably show how it scales up to 1M hashes and beyond.

Maybe, i choose to not do that because i think will be confusing some
formats one way and MSCASH in another.

> Also, I think testing on longer passwords (8 characters or so, 7 for LM)
> will be of more practical relevance.  I understand that your choice of
> length 5 might be related to JtR's shortcoming where you can't easily
> get incremental mode to terminate early by other means, except with an
> external mode which would introduce overhead.  I got to introduce a fast
> built-in mask mode or the like.

I will investigate ways to support that. If you support it in John of
course is better.

In develop version of this scripts i added support to SamInside,
PasswordsPro and PPA. This programs bench with length 7. I try to add
Cain too, but his GUI is tricky. There is no longer a need of Java VM,
so program is in C++ .


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