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Date: Sun, 05 Jul 2020 13:55:30 +1000
From: Philip Rhoades <phil@...com.com.au>
To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: First post - OWL looks really nice! - Q1

Alexander,


On 2020-07-05 04:22, Solar Designer wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 04, 2020 at 10:56:58PM +1000, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>> I was actually looking for a
>> non-systemd Fedora-based distro and OWL was the only one result found
>> by:
>> 
>>   https://distrowatch.com
> 
> Oh, that.  Owl isn't Fedora-based.  Owl pre-dates Fedora.  We use RPM
> and old Red Hat's network startup scripts.  We also use Red Hat style
> package categories and naming where we can.  We also use many patches
> from Red Hat's distros, but not a majority - by my count, Owl-current
> has 106 patches from Red Hat's distros out of 845 patches total.


Ah right . .


>> >>On 2020-07-04 03:10, Philip Rhoades wrote:
>> >>>I am also interested in using OWL for podman containers - I presume
>> >>>there will also be a networking issue there too?
>> >
>> >We use OpenVZ containers in Owl, not podman.  I doubt you'd be able to
>> >easily use podman on Owl.
>> 
>> I am talking about the other way around OWL as the container on the 
>> F31
>> host - it would be a very nice minimal container . .
> 
> Oh, that should work (with some effort),


OK, good - I will explore that a bit when I get a chance . .


> but would you find the old
> versions of software that we have in Owl suitable for your needs?


That will be the important Q for real use cases rather than fun / 
interest - it will be interesting to explore what can be done with OWL 
as an exercise - it looks like most people use Alpine when they want 
small containers.  My probable use cases would need Ruby and maybe 
Jekyll gem but even that would prob just be experimenting . .

Have you ever thought about a minimal boot that could fit on (a) 3.5" 
floppy(ies) - would that even be possible?  For years I have been 
thinking of getting around to working my way through the Linux From 
Scratch stuff as an exercise . .

Regards,

Phil.
-- 
Philip Rhoades

PO Box 896
Cowra  NSW  2794
Australia
E-mail:  phil@...com.com.au

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