Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2016 20:25:54 +0300 From: gremlin@...mlin.ru To: owl-users@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: new Owl On 2016-08-28 18:33:32 +0300, croco@...nwall.com wrote: >>> We'll need to decide on whether and what to do with Owl next, >>> beside the prolonged life support. One possibility is turning >>> it into a smaller (and safer?) OpenVZ 7 hosting platform >> That's how I use it. >> Besides being the virtualization host, Owl perfectly fits for >> small services normally running in a VDS (for me, that's only >> OpenVPN) or in VPS > Colleagues, could you pay attention to another possible task > Owl perfectly fits, namely a router/NAT box, primarily for > SOHO environment? Yes: small Atom-based PC can replace and outperform all commonly used SOHO devices, such as NAT boxes, switches, NASes, P2P clients media servers etc. > I actually used Owl as a router for approx. 12 years (well, > there was a P1 box with two ethernets running Owl). I decided > to retire that box when I actually realized that it consumes > a notable amount of electricity running 24*7, generating a lot > of noise with all these coolers, I use just a 9-years-old Core Quad Q6600-based server capable of running one VDS and several VPSes, which consumes approx. 200 kW*h of electricity; for me, it worth the money I pay for that. > and a tiny Raspberry Pi will do exactly the same at almost no > electricity cost and with no noise at all. When you need just a little more than a simple NAT box, that's the most obvious solution. > I would continue using Owl for that purpose but I failed at > my attempts to build it for Raspberry, That's ARM, which is a completely different architecture. However, I think I'd be able to build Owl for my BPI-R1 board once I'd find how to boot it (1) with custom kernel built by me and (2) with root partition on a hard disk or at least on a USB flash. > so my RasPi now runs Raspbian. Fffffuuuuuuuuu... > From the other hand, there are some (actually, many) devices > that are able to run OpenWRT; All those devices I know of are MIPS-based, which gives us yet another completely different architecture. > I think Owl, if it existed for these devices, could be better > option than OpenWRT. Owl would be too big for them... Typical OpenWRT fits into a 8Mb Flash ROM and runs in 32 (or even 16) Mb of RAM. > Furthermore, I wouln't be too surprized to see quagga being > included into Owl or at least being available as a package, > making Owl PC a good cheap replacement for a Cisco router :-) Yes, it should be added to "must have" packages list for Owl. Now, this list (reflecting my personal preferences and needs) contains the following: 1. Packages which should be available "out-of-box": dovecot git minicom msmtp nginx openvpn ppp qemu quagga rsync tcpdump trafshow wget 2. Other packages (I already have built them): centerim gd httpd jabberd2 libjpeg libpng mc mongodb mysql (mariadb) php postgresql samba squid -- Alexey V. Vissarionov aka Gremlin from Kremlin GPG: 8832FE9FA791F7968AC96E4E909DAC45EF3B1FA8 Content of type "application/pgp-signature" skipped
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