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Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2013 08:17:41 +0400
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: Server software (web server, database and backup)?

On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 04:51:58PM -0400, Jeffrey Walton wrote:
> I was looking through packages at
> I did not see Apache or Ngix, so I'm wondering what the hardened web
> server is used by Openwall.
> I did not see PostgreSQL or MySQL either.

You keep identifying the shortcomings of Owl.

Yes, we don't currently have a web server, nor an RDBMS, included with
Owl.  We use some custom "unofficial" packages when we install these
ourselves.  You may do one of the following:

1. Use Owl as an OpenVZ host system, running containers with other Linux
distros (e.g., CentOS 6 works) when you need functionality not included
in Owl.  In cases where Owl's functionality is sufficient, use it in the
corresponding OpenVZ containers.

2. Do custom builds of the additional software from sources, e.g.
installing under /usr/local or /opt.

3. Use third-party packages, such as NetBSD pkgsrc (this also means
building from source, but you get packages):

4. Use Gremlin's or/and Croco's packages:

Note that although these are by Owl contributors, these packages are not
Openwall official.

> And I have no idea about backup programs.

On many of our own installs, we use tar incremental backups over SSH.
Unfortunately, we have not brought the corresponding scripts to a
release-able state - perhaps we should.


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