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Date: Sun, 19 Dec 2010 02:02:30 -0300
From: Leonardo Lazzaro <>
Subject: Re: new to openwall! some migration question

Yes the question was not about generic migration, but about OpenVZ
containers migration. Anyway I will try to test it under some virtual


On Sat, Dec 18, 2010 at 5:31 AM, Simon Baker <> wrote:

> On 18/12/2010 07:05, (GalaxyMaster) wrote:
>> Leonardo,
>> On Fri, Dec 17, 2010 at 08:18:48PM -0300, Leonardo Lazzaro wrote:
>>> Anyone migrate from proxmox to openwall?
>> I never heard of proxmox before, but a quick search reveals that it's a
>> Linux distro which is focused on providing mail services.  Although,
>> it's possible to build very complex systems on top of Owl, I thought it
>> worth to be mentioned that Owl doesn't include the LAMP stack by default
>> (e.g. there is no MySQL, Apache, or PHP packages in the default package
>> repository).  However, since we are mostly binary compatible with RHEL
>> 4, CentOS 4, and FC 3 - you can install most of the needed packages from
>> there, yet you will get the benefit of the secure practises we use in
>> Owl.
> Actually the other magic bit in there was about OpenVZ.
> I migrated the entirety of my mail servers and web servers to a single host
> running Owl some time back (which was also actually a linux KVM host!), and
> found the entire experience to be far easier than expected.
> In essence, I installed Owl, and then installed other linux distro's to
> provide services I needed, for example it's extremely trivial (as in 5
> minutes work) to deploy an Ubuntu or Debian host, apt-get update and apt-get
> install postfix, follow a guide on the t'interwebs for configuring mail
> under debian or ubuntu, and restart the VZ guest to get it all up and
> running.
> I wrote some bits about how to get mail up and running under Owl, under a
> debian guest, with a single IP address assigned to the host here
> and here
> - just ignore the IPv6 stuff :-)
> Please feel free to ask more detailed questions to the list, I'm certain
> someone will help!
> Regards,
> Simon.
>  If you decide to migrate and have questions, please post them here and
>> we will try to help.  However, I'd suggest to post explicit questions
>> like "how can I Apache on top of Owl?", etc.  This way you will get more
>> responses than to question "How to migrate from ... to Owl?".
>> Hope this helps.

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