Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 12:47:08 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: owl-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: syslinux Michael, Thank you for your comments! Would you possibly provide a patch to our syslinux.spec implementing your suggested changes? On Wed, Nov 02, 2011 at 12:19:13AM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > The extlinux package isn't needed anymore in 4.x versions of > syslinux. Why didn't HPA update the included spec file accordingly, then? (OK, maybe this question shouldn't be addressed to you.) > But syslinux installer is a bit problematic: under linux > it uses mtools package to deal with fat-based filesystems, > so to be fair, it depends on mtools (or else needs to be > slightly patched to produce a nice error message in case > mtools is not installed). I am confused. If we merely want to let our users (Owl admins) use syslinux as an alternative to LILO, on ext4 filesystems, then should we care about mtools (which we currently don't package)? I think not. Or is it weird/wrong to package syslinux specifically, yet not care about FAT? > But the thing is: at this stage, it isn't really > interesting to support iso9669 at all. hybrid boot > images is what should be used - just IMHO. There, > any filesystem may be used, without restrictions > on filenames and symlinks, and you get usb booting > for free too. That's probably the main reason this > restriction does not pop up around syslinux - neither > in the mailinglist nor in wiki nor in irc. > > Hybrid images may not work on some old hardware, but > I'm not sure it is worth the effort to support or > even use such a hardware - it is energy-inefficient > compared with current systems. But may be working > just fine anyway... :) I am totally unfamiliar with hybrid images and what kind of machines do and don't support them. It'd be nice to support CD/DVD and USB flash sticks at once, but I notice that major distros still provide ISOs separately - perhaps for good reasons. > One more note: if you want to experiment chainloading > syslinux from windows bootloader, a small patch for > extlinux (if that's the installer of choice) needed > to record default boot partition properly in ldlinux.sys > proper, or else it wont find itself from bootsec.dos > file loaded by ntldr. Sounds like a patch you'd want to submit upstream, if it's yours and not yet submitted. Thanks again, Alexander
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