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Message-ID: <cf343c6b-abd7-425b-82a7-4ab78cbde1bd@gentoo.org>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2026 11:38:13 -0400
From: Eli Schwartz <eschwartz@...too.org>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: AI slops from Eve

On 9/9/26 9:35 PM, Solar Designer wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I've just reluctantly approved 3 AI slop postings by Eve
> <ckr927414@...k.li>, who is an "automated security researcher".  I don't
> know if there's any value in those, but I cannot rule that out.  The
> value could end up historical preservation of what these reports looked
> like at the dawn of AI security research.
> 
> These messages lack a Date header, but they arrived to the list server
> on September 9 starting 6am UTC and until 11am UTC.  For two of these,
> she sent several versions of the same posting.  I diff'ed them and ended
> up approving the latest versions, which include more content, but also
> have some assorted wording differences and some removals.
> 
> So where she writes she notified a vendor on September 9 and received no
> response, it means she gave the vendor no time to respond or didn't
> actually notify them.  Many AIs still fail at (or don't try) keeping
> track of time and of what they did before or are going to do later.


Leaving aside the colorfully professional joke email domain used, I
cannot help but feel it would be beneficial to avoid anthropomorphizing
the computer program (while simultaneously complaining they are either
incoherent or simply probably wrong). Volunteering for free to treat
bots like humans feels like the opposite of what you seem to be saying
you want...


-- 
Eli Schwartz


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