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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 10:08:50 +0200
From: Marcus Meissner <>
Subject: Re: linux-distros membership application of openEuler


Regardless of your viability of subscription status I think we also
(sadly) have to consider current geopolitical issues here.

As far as I understand, US companies and US citizens are not permitted
to work with Chinese organizations and/or Chinese nationals.

Due to US companies subscribed on the lists this would then likely lead to
conflicts of interest.

I have no good idea on how to approach this, perhaps someone else has.

Ciao, Marcus

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 09:39:29AM +0800, Aron Xu wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm requesting linux-distros mailing list membership on behalf of
> openEuler[1], a Linux distro that's actively maintained since 2020. It is
> hosted by OpenAtom Foundation[2] with many forms of support available from
> Huawei, Kylin, UnionTech, etc. It is publicly available, free to use and open
> to contribution.
> Here are the responses to the membership criteria:
> > 1. Be an actively maintained Unix-like operating system distro with
> >    substantial use of Open Source components
> > 2. Have a userbase not limited to your own organization
> The distro and its commercial derivatives have more than 4.5 million accumulated
> deployments on bare metal (since 2020), and even more if considering public and
> private cloud instances. Joining linux-distros will make a real difference for
> patching important issues for users.
> > 3. Have a publicly verifiable track record, dating back at least 1 year
> >    and continuing to present day, of fixing security issues (including
> >    some that had been handled on (linux-)distros, meaning that membership
> >    would have been relevant to you) and releasing the fixes within 10 days
> >    (and preferably much less than that) of the issues being made public
> >    (if it takes you ages to fix an issue, your users wouldn't
> >    substantially benefit from the additional time, often around 7 days and
> >    sometimes up to 14 days, that list membership could give you)
> The distribution has a complete public record of security fixes[3]. Although
> there is no defined policy on enforcing release time of security patches
> (yet), the actual timeline in execution is 7 days for high impact issues and
> 14 days for medium ones.
> > 4. Not be (only) downstream or a rebuild of another distro (or else we
> >    need convincing additional justification of how the list membership
> >    would enable you to release fixes sooner, presumably not relying on the
> >    upstream distro having released their fixes first?)
> The distribution is not a downstream or a rebuild of another distro. There
> are confusions on this question (especially Wikipedia pages) because before
> the project existed, there is an internal-only distro named "Euler OS" which
> is RHEL-based. When openEuler project is found the distribution is rebuilt and
> maintained from scratch, and there are also a few flavors of kernel packages
> with different patchsets. There are also a few commercial and/or community
> downstream distros of openEuler, too.
> > 5. Be a participant and preferably an active contributor in relevant
> >    public communities (most notably, if you're not watching for issues
> >    being made public on oss-security, which are a superset of those that
> >    had been handled on (linux-)distros, then there's no valid reason for
> >    you to be on (linux-)distros)
> openEuler has been actively working on patching upstream issues and there is a
> complete tracking and triaging of all issues with a CVE number[4]. The team
> is following oss-security's information closely, although weren't actively
> participating in discussions.
> > 6. Accept the list policy (see above)
> > 7. Be able and willing to contribute back (see above), preferably in
> >    specific ways announced in advance (so that you're responsible for a
> >    specific area and so that we know what to expect from which member),
> >    and demonstrate actual contributions once you've been a member for a
> >    while
> Yes we accept the list policy and are willing to contribute back in ways we
> are able to.
> > 8. Be able and willing to handle PGP-encrypted e-mail
> > 9. Have someone already on the private list, or at least someone else who
> >    has been active on oss-security for years but is not affiliated with
> >    your distro nor your organization, vouch for at least one of the people
> >    requesting membership on behalf of your distro (then that one
> >    vouched-for person will be able to vouch for others on your team, in
> >    case you'd like multiple people subscribed)
> Besides my role at openEuler, I’m also a part of the Debian Security Team,
> though I’m not subscribed to linux-distros since there are already people
> representing. If this application is accepted, I would like to step up to be
> the representative of openEuler.
> Regards,
> Aron
> [1]
> [2]
> [3]
> [4]

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