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Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2023 11:18:19 -0400
From: Demi Marie Obenour <demi@...isiblethingslab.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: linux-distros membership application of openEuler
On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 04:52:32PM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:01:44AM -0400, Demi Marie Obenour wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:23:50AM +0200, Greg KH wrote:
> > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2023 at 10:08:50AM +0200, Marcus Meissner wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Regardless of your viability of subscription status I think we also
> > > > (sadly) have to consider current geopolitical issues here.
> > > >
> > > > As far as I understand, US companies and US citizens are not permitted
> > > > to work with Chinese organizations and/or Chinese nationals.
> > >
> > > They can when working in the open on public projects and other
> > > open-source-like things. For "closed" lists and groups, please consult
> > > a lawyer as the rules there are quite varied and depends on the
> > > countries and companies involved.
> > >
> > > But to be sure, again, consult your corporate lawyers, they know the
> > > rules and the issues involved better than I do.
> > >
> > > good luck!
> > >
> > > greg k-h
> >
> > The question is _who_ should consult their lawyers.
>
> The people deciding if this group can be added to the closed list as
> they are the ones responsible for it, AND then if the group is added,
> the members of the list need to talk to their lawyers to see if their
> country laws allow them to participate in a closed group with such
> members. Many countries might be fine, many might not be, it all
> depends on the participants and what country laws they must abide by.
>
> So in short, everyone involved in the list! :(
>
> good luck!
>
> greg "I talk to too many lawyers" k-h
The result of this is simply that those who do not have access to
lawyers on staff will not participate, which will reduce the value of
the list substantially. I suspect that most people who report
vulnerabilities via distros@ fall into this category. I know I do.
Therefore, I recommend rejecting the application as too risky from a
legal perspective.
--
Sincerely,
Demi Marie Obenour (she/her/hers)
Invisible Things Lab
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