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Message-ID: <ebd36c0a-458e-c7ca-d3dd-42298abee061@oracle.com> Date: Mon, 4 Oct 2021 09:17:26 -0700 From: Alan Coopersmith <alan.coopersmith@...cle.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: 3 new CVE's in vim Those incentives for reporting bugs as security vulnerabilities haven't changed. But previously maintainers had more incentive to push back on claiming a bug was a security vulnerability - its often more work for them to put out an advisory/new release than just checking in a non-security fix. Certainly I know as one of the X.Org security team we'd not list things as security bugs if they didn't let an attacker do something outside the bounds of expected operation - for example, the X11 protocol already lets a client terminate the connection of another client, so a bug letting you do that is just a bug, not a vulnerability. -alan- On 10/4/2021 9:04 AM, Alex Gaynor wrote: > It seems a bit like huntr.dev makes an incentive, that has always > existed, explicit: There are rewards for getting CVEs issued. Folks > put them on their resumes, include them in audit reports they do, etc. > At least they're paying for fixes as well! > > Alex > > On Mon, Oct 4, 2021 at 11:50 AM Alan Coopersmith > <alan.coopersmith@...cle.com> wrote: >> >> On 9/30/2021 7:39 PM, Alan Coopersmith wrote: >>> I haven't seen these make it to the list yet, but three CVE's were >>> recently assigned for bugs in vim. [I personally don't see how >>> there's a security boundary crossed in normal vim usage here, but >>> could see issues if someone had configured vim to run with raised >>> privileges for editing system/application configuration files or >>> similar.] >> >> I do note all three of these were submitted via huntr.dev, which offers >> bounties for both reporting & fixing security bugs. As a maintainer of >> an upstream open source project which is struggling with finding people >> to fix reported security bugs [1], I do appreciate the additional >> incentive to provide fixes here. But as a maintainer of a distro, I see >> a mismatch with the incentives here, as you get bounties for accepting >> everything as a security bug and not pushing back, and flooding the >> distros with CVE's - even if your distro policy isn't to handle every >> CVE that applies, security auditors will often make your users query >> about every CVE that they think applies, costing your time to respond. >> >> [1] https://indico.freedesktop.org/event/1/contributions/28/ >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU3NeVvDSp0 >> >> -- >> -Alan Coopersmith- alan.coopersmith@...cle.com >> Oracle Solaris Engineering - https://blogs.oracle.com/alanc > > >
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