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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2021 13:56:00 -0400
From: "David A. Wheeler" <>
Subject: Re: xscreensaver package caps gets raw socket

>> On Apr 18, 2021, at 8:25 AM, Simon McVittie <> wrote:
>> Scraping is undesirable, but sometimes needed. If this is a common need, a
>> long-term solution might be to create an option on ping to generate a standard
>> format that’s easier to machine-parse.
> On Apr 19, 2021, at 1:35 PM, Ariadne Conill <> wrote:
> This already exists as fping(1), for example:

The problem for application developers is that “ping” exists practically everywhere,
while fping does not.

--- David A. Wheeler

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