Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2020 10:50:22 -0700 From: Ian Zimmerman <itz@...y.loosely.org> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: major changes if gnu/linux dominates the desktop and/or mobile market? On 2020-10-19 13:22, Solar Designer wrote: > Yes, the most difficult part with securing a desktop system is to keep > it conveniently usable. I think it is possible to isolate the desktop > environment from user programs without inconveniencing the user. As > to isolation between the user's programs, yes, that becomes visible to > the user and would require some training on how to explicitly transfer > data between the programs when needed. Perhaps there are ways to make > this intuitive, e.g. drag-and-drop. I sure hope that doesn't become the _only_ way, or I'll have some dark thoughts about the person who proposed it ;-) In any case I'll probably be dead by the time any of this is implemented, so maybe he has no worries. I transfer between XA_PRIMARY and XA_SECONDARY using the Emacs *scratch* buffer as a way station. The only way I'm even physically able to drag is using pointer keys, ie. keypad Insert followed by keypad arrow keys followed by keypad Delete. And no I don't fit any of the predefined "disabled" pigeonholes so various accessibility kits do nothing for me. XWindow and desktops based on it have many flaws including security ones, but it is flexible enough to be usable by "different" folks like me. Which of the modern replacements can say that, or even has actionable plans to address that? -- Ian
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