Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2020 20:45:14 +0200 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Cc: "Alban Crequy (Kinvolk)" <alban@...volk.io>, volkerdi@...ckware.com Subject: Re: Flatcar membership on the linux-distros list On Thu, Jul 23, 2020 at 02:06:14PM -0400, Vincent Batts wrote: > On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 2:36 PM Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > > Vincent, as far as I could find, you personally have subscribed to > > oss-security 2 months ago, and I couldn't find anyone else from Flatcar > > Linux subscribed. (Maybe people are with personal addresses that I > > didn't associate with Flatcar Linux.) > > For sure. > While I personally have been near the core of a couple of distributions, I > never was involved in the contributing-side with oss-security or vendor-sec. > 2 months ago I joined the Kinvolk team, and now squarely involved in this > aspect. > As for security disclosure overlap, there will now be a decent overlap with > an operating system component being containers. As I facilitate and lead > the Open Containers Initiative (OCI) security list, which hosts code like > runc, specifications and API definitions for container registries. > https://github.com/opencontainers/.github/blob/master/SECURITY.md Quite some overlap with (linux-)distros in the approach you use to pre-public-disclosure handling of security issues, indeed. One notable difference is you don't appear to have a maximum embargo time. > Alban Crequy (CC'ed) who is on the team has had interactions (which > pre-date flatcar): > https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/722 > https://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/4 Oh, as I understand from your e-mail signature, Alban is one of your company's directors. If so, I do find it convincing for Flatcar Linux's membership that one of your directors has personally contributed to security vulnerability discovery and handling. > Otherwise, the majority of contributions are involved in the respective > upstreams of the projects. Such contributions are relevant, too. > > As I recall other applications to join the linux-distros list since we > > introduced this contribute-back requirement, distros volunteered for > > some tasks right away, not "after being a member for a period." What > > you say makes sense, but would be a deviation from the practice so far. > > I'd appreciate not needing to make an exception for you. > > Yeah, no worries! We can begin immediately with: > * Check if related issues exist in implementations of similar functionality > in other software Great. Ubuntu already signed up as primary for this task, so Flatcar can be backup. > * Promptly review new issue reports for meeting the list's requirements and > confirm receipt of the report and, when necessary, inform the reporter of > any issues with their report This one already has both a primary and a backup. So unless you choose another second task for you (that doesn't already have two distros signed up for it), you'll initially be just a backup for "Check if related issues exist in ... other software", which is fine. > The number of packages in distro is drastically reduced, and we'll be on > this. I don't understand this comment and its relevance, but nevermind. > > > Pat Volkerding can vouch for me (CC???ed), and maybe others, but I asked > > > volkerdi first :-) > > > > We haven't yet heard from Pat Volkerding. Given your LinkedIn profile, > > I guess someone from Red Hat could vouch for you as well. > > Pat operates at his time. :-) > I was not heavily involved on this team at RH, but am asking there and a > few others as well. OK. It looks like we'll add Flatcar as soon as an existing member vouches for you. Alexander
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