Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 10:16:45 -0500 From: Jorge Lucangeli Obes <jorgelo@...gle.com> To: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> Cc: Kees Cook <kees@...ntu.com>, oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: linux-distros membership adjustment/vouching On Sun, Jan 12, 2020 at 12:47 PM Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > On Fri, Jan 10, 2020 at 12:52:41PM -0800, Kees Cook wrote: > > I've been a member of linux-distros for a long while, and my hat has > > slowly changed over that time. I'm subscribed there (and here) as > > kees@...ntu.com. When I my responsibilities shifted from the Ubuntu > > Security Team to the Chrome OS Security Team, I just kept the email > > address (since it's a community address and I'm still part of the Ubuntu > > community). > > > > However, as my responsibilities have shifted, I'm much less involved > > with the Chrome OS Security Team, and it was recently pointed out that > > no one else from the Chrome OS Security Team is (to our knowledge) > > a member right now. > > > > So, attempting to solve things in a backwards order, I'd like to first > > vouch for a Chrome OS Security Team member who is already on oss-security, > > with the goal of having them added to the linux-distros list: > > > > Jorge Lucangeli Obes <jorgelo@...gle.com> > > Given the above, I'd be happy to subscribe Jorge for Chrome OS. I just > need Jorge's PGP key. I also suggest using an e-mail address not on > Google's MX'es, because those reject messages sent from domains with > strict DMARC policy (most notably, when another Googler posts). > Thanks all. I'm actually on oss-security with my chromium.org account (jorgelo@...omium.org), let me figure out (before EoW for sure) what email will be best suited for this and send the associated PGP key. > Normally such subscription changes for an already subscribed distro are > handled off-list. However, what you bring up below deserves being > discussed on oss-security: > > > Then I'd like to figure out what to do with my own membership. I'm > > still associated with Ubuntu, Chrome OS, and Android but I don't have > > "official" responsibilities as a representative of their respective > > security teams. I am, however, an upstream Linux kernel security contact > > (but that doesn't qualify as a "Unix-like operating system distro", from > > item "1" in the membership criteria). I am still involved in fixing, > > notifying, negotiating, delegating, etc, in these various distros. Should > > I stay on linux-distros? I would prefer to (it makes that work simpler), > > but since there isn't any "criteria for continuing membership" on the > > Wiki, I'm not entirely sure what the right course of action should be. > > I think it'd be most consistent with our criteria so far if (at least) > one of those distros' security teams does state that you'd represent > them. Without that, you staying on linux-distros would be weird and > inconsistent with requirements we set for others. > Despite Kees' evolving responsibilities, I still consider (and trust) Kees to represent Chrome OS security. Moreover, organizationally Kees belongs to the same team as myself and the other Chrome OS security folks at Google, so I see no conflicts or contradictions here. > > (And if I stay, perhaps it would be more accurate to use kees@...nel.org?) > > It'd be up to you to choose an e-mail address that's convenient for > you. Messages are encrypted anyway, so this choice sort of does not > matter for security. In practice, though, it does matter a little bit: > if you choose an e-mail address in a specific distro's domain name, then > if you ever leave their team and they disable that e-mail account you > wouldn't be getting the messages anymore (and they wouldn't be able to > read messages intended for you as well, due to the encryption to your > key), even if they forget to promptly ask for your address to be removed > from the list. Despite of this minor security advantage, I don't insist > on use of such e-mail addresses so far, as I realize it's often far more > convenient to use an external e-mail address. > > As to kernel.org, it isn't particularly relevant here since the Linux > kernel is not a Linux distro. It's just an address you can use, just > like any other address. > > Alexander Thanks, Jorge
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