Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:55:07 -0400 From: Robert Watson <robertcwatson1@...il.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: CVE-2017-8805: Unsafe symlinks not filtered in Debian mirror script ftpsync May be that this convo should be migrated somewhere else, but I'd really like to understand how this has anything to do with symlinks. Been programming Unix/Linux for 30 years but now need to be a real SysAdmin so need to correct my misconceptions. Removing the ability for rsync to copy symlinks pointing to targets outside the mirror tree would greatly cripple it. I need to understand how the danger is worth the loss of this functionality. Can you or anyone help me with this? *Trust in truth keeps hope aliverobertcwatson1@...il.com <robertcwatson1@...il.com>webmaster@...icchorale.org <webmaster@...icchorale.org>alpha.docsalvager.info <http://alpha.docsalvager.info>www.CivicChorale.org <http://www.CivicChorale.org>* On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 9:30 AM, Ben Tasker <ben@...tasker.co.uk> wrote: > On Wed, Oct 18, 2017 at 1:55 PM, Robert Watson <robertcwatson1@...il.com> > wrote: > > > Since security is determined by file and directory permissions and > > ownership, not by symlinks, wouldn't the fact that a malicious user did > not > > have permissions to access the symlink's target file/directory prevent > any > > harm? > > > > If I'm reading the original correctly, then the user that will access the > target will be the user your HTTP daemon runs as (so, for sake of example, > nginx). > > There's stuff that will be protected by permissions (for example, you > shouldn't be able to pull down /etc/shadow - so long as nginx/apache isn't > running as root), but there are other files that you might consider > sensitive(ish). Pulling down /etc/passwd would give you a list of known > good usernames to better target brute-force attempts (for example). Or > perhaps using it to grab the config file of some dynamic site on the same > server etc. > > So there is potential scope for abuse there, and others probably have > better imaginations than I do. > > The "nice" thing about it is: if an attacker gets access to the upstream > mirror they still may not be able to mess with the packages themselves (as > they're signed), but with this they can still potentially be hostile to > downstream. > > > -- > Ben Tasker > https://www.bentasker.co.uk >
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