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Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2017 00:07:10 +0800
From: Shawn <>
To: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: Re: More CONFIG_VMAP_STACK vulnerabilities,
 refcount_t UAF, and an ignored Secure Boot bypass / rootkit method

Hi Alexander,

I respect your decision. Because this is your list. To myself, it's
not a crap. I was just simply talking the fact I know. I've been
suffering from Linux security for a long time due to lacking of the
defensive mitigation. Anyway, this kind of discussion may be somewhere
else but not on oss-security.

S0rry for the extra maintainence work on pre-moderation.

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 11:55 PM, Solar Designer <> wrote:
> Shawn,
> I really don't appreciate you CC'ing kernel-hardening on this.  As I
> wrote to you in the rejection message for that copy of your message:
> "It's sufficient that we have this crap on oss-security.  Let's not spam
> kernel-hardening with it as well.  Let's have it on just one list, and
> it just so happens it started on oss-security this one time.  As a
> moderator, I fully expect I'll have to shut down this thread soon anyway."
> I also had to switch kernel-hardening to full message pre-moderation
> because of your CC.  Hopefully temporarily again.  Last time I did this
> (recently), and had since undone it (re-enabling the whitelist until
> today), was because of what I'll call an "anti-grsecurity crap" thread.
> Why pre-moderate even for previously whitelisted senders?  Because they
> might be replying to this thread that you attempted to CC to
> kernel-hardening, without them realizing that your initial message was
> not approved there.  This is a general problem with CC's to moderated
> lists, and why I ask that all of us please use CC's sparingly.
> I don't like censorship, but I also want these mailing lists to remain
> usable for their primary intended purposes for all of us.  This is why
> we generally don't reject individual messages in these discussion
> threads until eventually having to shut down the threads.  So all sides
> have an equal opportunity to speak.
> FWIW, my own opinion on the actual matters raised in these threads is
> nuanced.  I'm not with either side.  I guess this makes it easier for me
> to stay neutral as a moderator.
> Alexander

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