Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2016 15:28:03 +0000 From: "Radzykewycz, T (Radzy)" <radzy@...driver.com> To: Amos Jeffries <squid3@...enet.co.nz>, "oss-security@...ts.openwall.com" <oss-security@...ts.openwall.com> Subject: RE: [security-vendor] Re: Concerns about CVE coverage shrinking - direct impact to researchers/companies ________________________________________ > From: Amos Jeffries [squid3@...enet.co.nz] > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2016 5:47 PM > To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com > Subject: [security-vendor] Re: [oss-security] Concerns about CVE coverage shrinking - direct impact to researchers/companies > > On 7/03/2016 9:39 a.m., Gsunde Orangen wrote: > > I totally agree. > > The concern addressed by Kurt initially is fully valid (for both > > researchers and for companies that are not on Mitre's product/sources > > list), so a new (better: additional) solution is required. > > However, creating a new standard independently of CVE would be too > > disruptive and be a disservice to the software industry. > > I'd propose to work out a new solution together with Mitre, whilst > > keeping the CVE IDs as today. > > Since 2014, virtually unlimited number of CVE IDs can be assigned per > > year , so a solution could be that > > - Mitre continues to assign 4 and 5 digit IDs as today > > - 6 digit IDs are reserved for the new process (hosted outside Mitre) > > If more than one million vulnerabilities need to be addressed in one > > year, we could follow the rule (odd digits -> Mitre, even digits -> > > "other process") > > From Mitre's POC, this "other process" would become a "CNA", just with > > its own policy and process definition, not prescribed by Mitre. > > It would soon become clear to everyone (and all tools and products that > > rely on CVE) where to look at for the authoritative vulnerability > > information. > > > While reading this whole thread I have been thinking along very similar > but slightly different lines. > > Right now as a vendor 'security desk' I/we have the situation where we > have to allocate an internal reference ID anyway while awaiting Mitre > assignment. These IDs are not spread so widely as CVE in the early > stages, so we end up with other vendors and downstream distributions not > quite in the same discussion loop allocating their own temporary numbers > for the same issue. And some do anyway just because thats the way they > operate. > (Those aware of the history might recall this was the exact same > situation which caused CVE to be created and centralized through Mitre > in the first place.) > > Having an easily self-assigned OVI number does sound nice. At least for > use as a temporary ID that can be publicly shared before the proper > analysis can be completed by Mitre for a CVE, which can then sub-link. > > AYJ Seems like it would be a very simple change, if Mitre were willing to do it, to have vulnerability reporters include an OVE or OVI tracking number with every report. That way, there would be a number to track from the initial report, and still have the benefits of a significant review for CVE identifiers. If Mitre were willing to make it mandatory, I think that might be best. But even if not, that wouldn't prohibit researchers from doing this, though it would be more ad-hoc. Enjoy! -- radzy
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