Date: Tue, 17 Nov 2015 15:16:07 -0500 (EST) From: Josh Bressers <bressers@...hat.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Re: Fwd: x86 ROP mitigation > > It's not going to be increasing the cost of exploit development if it > only means a script ends up finding different gadgets instead. Maybe it > leads to better tooling being developed if it's far enough along, but > that's one person investing their time once, not every exploit taking > more resources to develop. If it's incomplete, how is it a layer? > It's the first step of a very long road. This attitude is quite pervasive across security people, and it's not a very good one. Just because the first iteration of a technology isn't perfect, or the ideas have room for improvement is no reason to go all negative. Sometimes great ideas start out like this. If it's a bad idea, it won't stick around for long. There are few instances where doing nothing is better than doing something. -- JB
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