Date: Sat, 2 May 2015 01:58:15 +0300 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: On sanctioned MITMs Hi, I feel that this is borderline off-topic for oss-security because of no specific relevance to Open Source, unless the discussion is somehow refocused on aspects that are directly Open Source relevant - e.g., "should we block these CDNs (and how) in Open Source software's SSL/TLS certificate validity checks because of those specific risks" - that's just an example of what would bring the discussion on-topic for this list, not an actual suggestion (I think such blocking would be bad). On Fri, May 01, 2015 at 07:15:22PM +0000, mancha wrote: > How should the security community view this growing use of sanctioned > MITM in light of the ever-increasing amount of sensitive content sent > over SSL/TLS encrypted channels (e.g. email, electronic banking, medical > records, etc.)? I will only address an aspect that is on-topic here: I've recently received an off-list inquiry from a company in this space (a "sanctioned MITM" software and appliance vendor) on how they can request distros list membership. My reply included: "According to what you wrote, Company Name should not be on distros, so I would recommend that you not make the request. However, to have it fairly discussed (or not, as several of the recent on-hold requests haven't been discussed to a point of acceptance or rejection), and hopefully rejected, please feel free to post to the oss-security list." This highlights that if/once we accept some closed source distro vendors to distros, the next round of headache will be inquiries/requests from vendors like these - and in fact at that point this won't seem as unreasonable as it does to me now. This is (obvious and expected) slippery slope. This makes me sad. Alexander
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