Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2014 13:54:35 +0100 From: Hanno Böck <hanno@...eck.de> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Offset2lib: bypassing full ASLR on 64bit Linux On Thu, 04 Dec 2014 21:19:04 +0100 Hector Marco <hecmargi@....es> wrote: > This is a disclosure of a weakness of the ASLR Linux implementation. > The problem appears when the executable is PIE compiled and it has an > address leak belonging to the executable. We named this weakness: > offset2lib. Thanks for that. Two things on that: Cynics might say "most linux distros aren't vulnerable to ASLR bypass because they don't use ASLR at all". Can we please take this as an opportunity to discuss the state of ASLR on Linux in general? It's pretty sad, afaik Linux was one of the first to have ASLR (in the form of pax) back in 2001. Today everyone uses ASLR by default except Linux. Most distros don't ship pic/pie executables by default. Why? I haven't done benchmarks, the saying is that this has a notable performance hit on 32 bit but almost none on 64 bit. If this is true then could we at least have all major distros enable it on 64 bit? Second: I wrote a small test .c to print out offset diffs. As expected printf-main offset is static on normal Linux with pic/pie and random on a pax-enabled system. What i found notable: diff-ing two function offsets from different libraries (I use printf-sin) is alway static, even on Pax. Is this by design? Can't different libraries be loaded at different offsets in ram? -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: hanno@...eck.de GPG: BBB51E42 Content of type "application/pgp-signature" skipped
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