Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2014 17:12:09 -0500 (EST) From: "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@...eeler.com> To: "oss-security" <oss-security@...ts.openwall.com> Subject: Re: Apple goto fail - lessons that should be learned On Wed, 26 Nov 2014 21:01:09 +0100, Hanno Böck <hanno@...eck.de> wrote: > I've written something similar on POODLE (and BERserk), not sure if I > posted this here before: > https://blog.hboeck.de/archives/858-Dancing-protocols,-POODLEs-and-other-tales-from-TLS.html > > Not surprisingly I come to somewhat similar conclusions (protocol > downgrade protection, encrypt-then-mac etc.) Excellent! I've added a citation from my POODLE paper to your post. > But the most important conclusion from POODLE is imho: Be very careful > with implementing workarounds for broken hard/software - and don't do > them if they compromise security. Agreed. It's going to be hard to do that in practice, I fear. Thankfully, it looks like SSLv3 will disappear, reducing the pressure to do that for TLS. That will help. --- David A. Wheeler
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