Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2014 10:55:25 -0600 From: Kurt Seifried <kseifried@...hat.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com, David Leon Gil <coruus@...il.com>, kristian.fiskerstrand@...ptuouscapital.com CC: "gnupg-devel@...pg.org" <gnupg-devel@...pg.org>, Werner Koch <wk@...pg.org>, thijs@...ian.org Subject: Re: Re: 0xdeadbeef comes of age: making keysteak with GnuPG On 10/10/14 10:37 AM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: > On 10/10/2014 12:23 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor wrote: >> On 10/10/2014 12:01 PM, David Leon Gil wrote: >>>> (While I know that if a root CA were caught intentionally issuing an >>>> MitM cert for keybase.io or pgp.mit.edu would face likely >>>> delisting/bankruptcy.) >> I'd like to believe that also, but i think that some of the members of >> the CA cartel might be "too big to fail" in the current infrastructure. >> There's no chance that the CA will go bankrupt if they aren't delisted >> (since the CA market is a lemon market), and every web site certified by >> the bigger CAs has an incentive to argue against that CAs' delisting >> (because it will break their web site). > > And, even when we can burn a small CA, the larger organization often > carries on unharmed: > > http://www.links.org/?p=1268 > > --dkg More to the point what happened to the auditors (PWC) that signed off on them being ok to operate as a CA? Nothing. https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.security.policy/_y1L50SdUQs -- Kurt Seifried -- Red Hat -- Product Security -- Cloud PGP A90B F995 7350 148F 66BF 7554 160D 4553 5E26 7993 Download attachment "signature.asc" of type "application/pgp-signature" (820 bytes)
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