Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2014 09:14:39 -0700 From: Greg KH <greg@...ah.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Healing the bash fork On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 12:08:15PM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote: > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 08:55:35AM -0700, Greg KH wrote: > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 07:15:56AM -0400, Jason Cooper wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 01, 2014 at 01:08:09PM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: > > > > Am Tue, 30 Sep 2014 19:19:55 -0400 (EDT) > > > > schrieb "David A. Wheeler" <dwheeler@...eeler.com>: > > > > > > > > > Finally: *PLEASE* let me know if you have any good ideas on how to > > > > > find vulnerabilities like this ahead-of-time. My article "How to > > > > > Prevent the Next > > > > > Hearbleed" (http://www.dwheeler.com/essays/heartbleed.html) lists a > > > > > number of ways that Heartbleed-like vulnerabilities could have been > > > > > detected ahead-of-time, in ways that are general enough to be > > > > > useful. I'd like to do the same with Shellshock, so we can quickly > > > > > eliminate a whole class of problems. > > > > > > > > The "class of problems" here is imho that we have a bunch of tools that > > > > get rare attention from anyone, are run by few volunteers, but they're > > > > an essential part in running the Internet. > > > > > > > > Just think about busybox, curl, wget, coreutils, gettext, gzip, ... - a > > > > vuln in any of these could have severe consequences. > > > > > > > > Maybe the topic here should be: "How can we get the (whitehat) IT > > > > seucrity community to have a deeper look at neglected but important > > > > opensource projects." > > > > > > The LF has the Core Infrastructure Initiative: > > > > > > http://www.linuxfoundation.org/programs/core-infrastructure-initiative/faq > > > > Yes, that's exactly what that group is doing, and they have a huge list > > of these types of projects that they are looking into funding to help > > prevent this type of thing from happening again. I'll go add bash to > > the list there as I don't think it is currently on it at the moment. > > Could we also update the FAQ to include "How to recommend a project?"? > A few days ago I tried to recommend bash. I dug around, and finally > just sent an email to Ted. Which I don't think is the correct answer > ;-) It isn't, but Ted is a good contact for it :) Fixing the FAQ is on the list of things to do that was discussed at the last meeting, hopefully it will be done soon. thanks, greg k-h
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