Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2014 16:55:31 +0100 From: Richard Moore <rich@....org> To: cve-assign@...re.org Cc: henri@...v.fi, oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: CVE Request for KIO/kmail On 15 June 2014 16:17, <cve-assign@...re.org> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > [ actual security content, for people who don't want to read the > meta-discussion: > > Is this related to an https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=330795 > vulnerability? > ] > > That is unrelated. > > From: Henri Salo <henri@...v.fi> > > More details are needed for public CVE request. > > It might be worthwhile to clarify what problems we're solving, in the > specific case of a request by a product's upstream vendor, by > requiring that more vulnerability details be sent here at the time of > the CVE request. > > MITRE is almost certainly willing to accept this as a valid reason, if > there's general agreement: > > - people here don't want to see announcements of vulnerabilities > that are both vague AND unfixed, and would just unsubscribe if there > were many of these > > (vague vulnerability details for fixed issues typically haven't > had objections in the past, e.g., the > http://openwall.com/lists/oss-security/2013/11/28/5 post) > > (In 2013 and earlier, vulnerability details here had a de-duplication > purpose for MITRE, but they often don't now. If we were to assign a > CVE ID for this, we'd already know whether any kio CVE requests had > been sent directly to us. The CVE-OpenSource-Request-HOWTO.html page > and examples aren't directly applicable to us, and we're generally > more concerned with knowing whether something is a unique issue that > everyone will want to fix, than with knowing every possible detail. > But we realize the list charter may imply a minimum level of details.) > > Going back to the security content, KDE Bug 330795 mentioned above says: > > Product kio > > KDE's KIO completely ignores the first part, "must not automatically > redirect without prompting the user" > > and possibly this is (or was) a violation of RFC 7231 section 6.4, > with security implications: > > "Automatic redirection needs to done with care for methods not > known to be safe, as defined in Section 4.2.1, since the user > might not wish to redirect an unsafe request." > > Does anyone want a CVE ID for that? > > Finally, for the original "a vulnerability in KIO that causes a security > issue in kmail" request: to get a CVE ID for this more quickly, please send > to cve-assign@...re.org mentioning whether it is or isn't Bug 330795. > We don't want to send a CVE ID here immediately because MITRE doesn't > determine the list charter and it might be an off-topic request. > > In the past when I've tried to use the cve-assign address it has basically been a black hole. Since then I've either asked redhat or one of the other OSS vendors for a CVE. I've used the distros@...openwall.org now as a fallback. I'd also note as part of the meta discussion that I'm not going to release details of vulnerabilities to a public list before the fix, and just because someone asks for more details doesn't mean I will provide them. - I have no way to know who the person asking is. If getting a CVE assigned becomes a problem then the solution from my side will be to release the advisory then let someone else sort out assigning CVEs afterwards. Cheers Rich.
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