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date: Fri, 10 Jun 2011 12:56:58 +0200
from: "Bernhard Rosenkraenzer" <>
Subject: Re: CVE request -- coreutils -- tty hijacking possible in "su" via TIOCSTI ioctl

On Friday, June 10, 2011 11:55 CEST, Ludwig Nussel <> wrote: 
> The issue also reminds me that there are several su implemenations.
> On Fedora and SUSE we have a patched coreutils version, Debian uses
> the one from shadow-utils and then there's also a su from
> SimplePAMApps, used by e.g. Owl. Of course each one has it's own
> quirks and weird features. Does anyone still remember why a
> particular implementation was chosen? :-)

In Ark Linux, we switched from the coreutils one to the shadow-utils one about 2 years ago because the shadow-utils one does what we need (incl. PAM support) without having to port the PAM patch on every new coreutils release.


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