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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2011 05:17:16 -1000
From: akuster <>
CC: Ronald van den Blink <>
Subject: Re: Closed list

On 04/12/2011 11:25 PM, Ronald van den Blink wrote:
> On 4/12/11 11:49 PM, "akuster" <> wrote:
>> On 04/11/2011 09:57 AM, Josh Bressers wrote:
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> Postponed. I'd like to see any support for you getting onto the Linux
>>>> distros security contacts list, with reasoning, or/and any other
>>>> suggestions on what to do in this case. Josh - what do you think (as
>>>> someone who advocated the setup of a vendor-sec replacement)?
>>> My initial thought is that a vendor without public advisories is a
>>> liability.
>> Making our Advisories public could put our customers' customers at risk
>> depending on when we publish and when our customers can get the fixes
>> into their customers hands and so on down the line.
>> - Armin
> Hi Armin,
> Sorry for putting my $0.02 in the bucket here as well, but the whole
> purpose of a closed list is that you can fix them before releasing a
> public advisory. When you fixed it, the customers can (just like other
> dist's do, just get it patched before you publish it. 

Are you joking? I was told Embargoes could not be released to our
customers until the agreed to release date. That would change some
things and would be more like .02 euros.

- Armin

It's not that this
> is so strange, as closed source OS makers are doing the same (remember
> Black Tuesday's at MS and Apple's releases).
> Just my 2 cents.
> Ronald 

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