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Date: Tue, 5 Apr 2011 20:18:38 +0400
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: Closed list

I wish we had this discussion for real a month ago, but apparently most
folks won't comment until the setup of a closed list becomes a reality.
So I think there was some use in setting it up even if we end up re-doing
or removing it, which is within consideration. ;-)

On Tue, Apr 05, 2011 at 09:40:13AM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:
> A lot of userland stuff is shared between BSD and Linux, and probably
> some other operating systems.  About the only things that differ between
> a lot of these are the Linux kernel, and the *libc.

There are also userland tools specific to the Linux kernel, there's
Linux-PAM, there are package managers that are rarely used on non-Linux.

I mostly agree with you, though.

> I think if the disqualifier to Apple is that they don't ship a Linux
> kernel and glibc, then we're doing them (and ourselves) a disservice.
> Apple contributed a lot to vendor-sec (and I'm not going all pro-Apple
> here, just stating a fact).


> I think it would be reasonable to s/Linux list/open source vendor list/,
> like vendor-sec used to be.

If it's not just Linux, then where do we draw the line?  Do we accept
Solaris distros (of which there are several), Haiku, ReactOS, Cygwin,
and who knows what else (no offense intended to any of these fine
projects)?  I think this would make leaks and misuse of the information
significantly more likely, and make some members and reporters
uncomfortable about posting to the list.  So we'll be back to CC lists.

> ... letting Apple/FreeBSD/OpenBSD/etc. have a seat at our table.

I am comfortable about "Apple/FreeBSD/OpenBSD", but not about "etc." -
so we'd be forced to introduce a vouching system (well, maybe we'd be
forced to do that for Linux distros as well...)


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