Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 02:38:56 +0400 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Closed list Dan, Thank you for your comments! I had them in mind when I made the final determination on the list that I've setup. Josh wrote: > > Should we require members use a mail address from their vendor? Letting > > people use personal addresses creates an opportunity for people to remain > > on a list when they are no longer a part of a given vendor (it also makes > > it quite easy to know who represents a vendor). "Good" employers, let alone non-commercial Open Source projects, don't remove e-mail addresses when a person leaves. Someone having an @debian.org address does not mean they're currently with Debian. On Fri, Apr 01, 2011 at 08:08:36PM -0400, Dan Rosenberg wrote: > Yes, I think this should be a requirement for a closed coordination > list Yet I decided to allow some personal e-mail addresses for now, for the reasons Mike has explained. It takes me extra time to verify that a person's non-vendor e-mail address is really "theirs", though. > (as opposed to the more relaxed option #2). In fact, I think > membership to such a list should be restricted almost exclusively to > distributions and downstream providers of third-party software. It > obviously makes sense to have distro security teams on a list, since a > vulnerability in project XYZ will need to be coordinated among all of > the distros. However, most software projects only need access to > information concerning their own project. There's no reason one > software project should gain access to vulnerability information about > a completely unrelated project, and restricting membership to achieve > that will at least help minimize the leakage that went on with the > previous list. > > In a nutshell, I think this list needs to decide what its purpose is. > If it's for coordination for vulnerability disclosure, then its > membership should be kept to those who actually need to do the > coordination. Right. So for now I setup a Linux distro security contacts list only, as a hopefully better alternative to the long yet incomplete CC lists that started to appear when vendor-sec ceased to exist. > If it's for private (or semi-private) discussion of > potentially sensitive research, knowledge sharing, etc., then its > membership should be expanded to include representation from software > vendors and researchers. Right, although I'm not sure about software vendors. I think there's usually just one non-distro software vendor for whom a given issue is relevant (the upstream), so it can simply be CC'ed. For example, on the old vendor-sec we had X and Samba, and I don't recall any discussion in which both participated at once. Alexander
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