Date: Fri, 1 Apr 2011 20:08:36 -0400 From: Dan Rosenberg <dan.j.rosenberg@...il.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Cc: Josh Bressers <bressers@...hat.com> Subject: Re: Closed list Hi Josh, > > Long term I'd like to see two lists, one for purpose #1, and another geared > toward #2. I think having a trusted venue for knowledge sharing would be > very useful, and we likely don't want the list clogged with coordination > details. This will of course rely heavily on what Openwall is willing to > take on. They're already taking on a lot of risk and responsibility, I > don't want to spoil the good will. > I agree that having such a venue for discussion would be valuable, and I'd personally like to contribute to such a list. > > Should we require members use a mail address from their vendor? Letting > people use personal addresses creates an opportunity for people to remain > on a list when they are no longer a part of a given vendor (it also makes > it quite easy to know who represents a vendor). > Yes, I think this should be a requirement for a closed coordination list (as opposed to the more relaxed option #2). In fact, I think membership to such a list should be restricted almost exclusively to distributions and downstream providers of third-party software. It obviously makes sense to have distro security teams on a list, since a vulnerability in project XYZ will need to be coordinated among all of the distros. However, most software projects only need access to information concerning their own project. There's no reason one software project should gain access to vulnerability information about a completely unrelated project, and restricting membership to achieve that will at least help minimize the leakage that went on with the previous list. In a nutshell, I think this list needs to decide what its purpose is. If it's for coordination for vulnerability disclosure, then its membership should be kept to those who actually need to do the coordination. If it's for private (or semi-private) discussion of potentially sensitive research, knowledge sharing, etc., then its membership should be expanded to include representation from software vendors and researchers. -Dan > > Thanks. > > -- > JB >
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