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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 11:09:11 +0100
From: Andrea Barisani <>
Subject: Re: Vendor-sec hosting and future of closed lists

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 11:28:14PM -0400, Mike O'Connor wrote:
> [catching up on old email]
> :> > As suggested by Josh Bressers oCERT would be favourable to providing a
> :> > system that would accept user submission and allow selection of security
> :> > contacts from our existing member database as well as other verified
> :> > contacts.
> ...
> :It all depends on how this process is going to be handled. I can see oCERT
> :helping in routing reports to the proper contacts via email to our trusted
> :member contacts as well as external ones that we can seek on a report basis.
> What I've observed is that some times, the reporter or coordinator
> doesn't have a good idea of the scope of their issue.  To cite some
> real-world examples involving folks who I thought would know better:
>   1) no, BSD networking isn't just in Free/Net/OpenBSD 
>   2) no, ONC RPC just isn't in Sun products
>   3) no, a RH-specific kernel issue is a general Linux kernel issue
> Scoping issues isn't always easy.  How do you know whether I backported
> some bleeding-edge fix with broken security implications into one of the
> OSes I care about last week?  Sometimes, I'll need specific info just to
> confirm that I don't care about the issue.  Scoping is one of the things
> that vendor-sec was occasionally quite helpful with.  

Putting reports within the proper context and hunting down all occurrences of
affected code in other projects has been one of oCERT goals from the

I agree 100% that reporters often do not have this knowledge or do not care
about making the effort in scoping things in depth, that's exactly why oCERT
was created.

> -- 
>  Michael J. O'Connor                                
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          oCERT | Open Source Computer Emergency Response Team

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