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Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2011 04:07:15 +0000
From: "Menkhus, Mark (GSE Security HP SSRT)" <mark.menkhus@...com>
To: "oss-security@...ts.openwall.com" <oss-security@...ts.openwall.com>
Subject: RE: Vendor-sec hosting and future of closed lists

Mike has an interesting idea, of opening the archives after a period of
time.  The embargoes in vendor-sec were typically weeks, but I don't recall
the longest one.  I too favor opening the vendor-sec archives after a while,
maybe quarterly.

Not being the one fixing the code for our kernel left me with little to
immediately contribute, but I requested and coordinated with several folks
who got vendor sec for HP.  Likely, we would still want to be part of
vendor-sec.new.

Most importantly, we would be glad to restate our need to continue to
participate based on the new ground rules of whomever administers the new
vendor-sec.  FWIW, I understand our largely silent participation in
vendor-sec was annoying to folks looking at code, assessing risk, and
suggesting fixes.  If there is something we could contribute, I'll encourage
us not to be as shy.

-Mark Menkhus
Hewlett Packard Software Security Response Team

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike O'Connor [mailto:mjo@...o.mi.org]
> Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 9:01 PM
> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
> Subject: Re: [oss-security] Vendor-sec hosting and future of closed
> lists
> 
> [catching up on older emails]
> 
> :> > They do this already today, that's what security@...nel.org is
> for, and
> :> > it gets a bit of traffic like this every week.
> :>
> :> Is this list open to the public?  It doesn't seem to be available on
> :> http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html.
> :
> :No, it is closed, as it should be as potential security problems are
> :mailed there.  You don't want that to be totally open, right?
> 
> One suggestion I've made in the past is to have the list _archives_ be
> open.  So anything older than, say, a month is made public.  That way,
> folks can see how issues were disclosed, how decisions were reached,
> etc.  for old issues that are no longer under embargo.  The way I see
> it, if we don't publish the list archive on our own terms, miscreants
> will get around to publishing it for us.
> 
> --
>  Michael J. O'Connor
> mjo@...o.mi.org
>  =--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==--==-
> -==--=
> "Why make trillions when we could make... billions?"                -
> Dr. Evil

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