Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:10:48 +0100 From: Jonathan Brossard <endrazine@...il.com> To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: CFPs and con invitations on the list -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hello, For what it worthes : I didn't expect to trigger such a debate on the list. I merely posted here because: 1) I'd really like to see people from this list to the HES conference. 2) I saw a hibt post on this very list little time ago. Sorry for the blatant inconvenience... Best regards, Jonathan- Matthias Andree wrote: > Am 25.03.2010 15:24, schrieb Josh Bressers: > [...] >> I think those headers bring up a good point. This is comparable to the old >> days of cross posting to lots of gropus on usenet (for you young folks, it >> was frowned upon). Perhaps we encourage messages DIRECTED at oss-security, >> rather than shotgun announcements. > > Which will then be disassembled into a series of mail-merged individual > invitations (aka. multi-posting, which was worse than cross-posting)? If that > would happen, I'd object. I also object to "badly cross-posted" invitations. > >> 4) Approve posts from list memebers who've been on the list for > 1 month. >> (I suspect this is the best solution) > > A "List member[...]" might be a lurker, might be an occasional contributor, or a > regular contributor. As a pointed question: Would you allow spammers to dump > their UCE here if they only were subscribers for four weeks? > > More seriously, what relevance has the duration of a subscription? My answer > is: none whatsoever. There simply isn't any merit in being subscribed alone. > I find that this criterion, while objective, says nothing about contributions of > the subscriber to the list, and is therefore not useful. > > I acknowledge that finding objective criteria is hard, but #4 is IMO just a very > bad loophole. > > FWIW, I'm getting spamvertisements for conferences directed at me personally, > and I find that offensive and it should be a reason to prohibit the conference > altogether, so as to have a real incentive not to spam. > > At the very least, conference advertisements, if allowed in moderation, should > be tagged so that people can automatically filter them. Filter instructions > could then be on the list's accompanying homepage. > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkur0VgACgkQK/YAm7PYybniugCgsGnNATn6j8+Ldlmfw10WEFka N8QAoIXD46m7d8qdlmEOgvBlMPwvEEIz =AM/1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
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