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Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:10:48 +0100
From: Jonathan Brossard <endrazine@...il.com>
To: oss-security@...ts.openwall.com
Subject: Re: CFPs and con invitations on the list

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Hello,

For what it worthes : I didn't expect to trigger such a debate on the
list. I merely posted here because:
1) I'd really like to see people from this list to the HES conference.
2) I saw a hibt post on this very list little time ago.

Sorry for the blatant inconvenience...

Best regards,

Jonathan-

Matthias Andree wrote:
> Am 25.03.2010 15:24, schrieb Josh Bressers:
> [...]
>> I think those headers bring up a good point. This is comparable to the old
>> days of cross posting to lots of gropus on usenet (for you young folks, it
>> was frowned upon). Perhaps we encourage messages DIRECTED at oss-security,
>> rather than shotgun announcements.
> 
> Which will then be disassembled into a series of mail-merged individual
> invitations (aka. multi-posting, which was worse than cross-posting)?  If that
> would happen, I'd object.  I also object to "badly cross-posted" invitations.
> 
>> 4) Approve posts from list memebers who've been on the list for > 1 month.
>>     (I suspect this is the best solution)
> 
> A "List member[...]" might be a lurker, might be an occasional contributor, or a
> regular contributor.  As a pointed question: Would you allow spammers to dump
> their UCE here if they only were subscribers for four weeks?
> 
> More seriously, what relevance has the duration of a subscription?  My answer
> is: none whatsoever.  There simply isn't any merit in being subscribed alone.
> I find that this criterion, while objective, says nothing about contributions of
> the subscriber to the list, and is therefore not useful.
> 
> I acknowledge that finding objective criteria is hard, but #4 is IMO just a very
> bad loophole.
> 
> FWIW, I'm getting spamvertisements for conferences directed at me personally,
> and I find that offensive and it should be a reason to prohibit the conference
> altogether, so as to have a real incentive not to spam.
> 
> At the very least, conference advertisements, if allowed in moderation, should
> be tagged so that people can automatically filter them. Filter instructions
> could then be on the list's accompanying homepage.
> 

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