Date: Tue, 15 Sep 2015 04:03:11 +0300 From: Solar Designer <solar@...nwall.com> To: john-dev@...ts.openwall.com Subject: Re: Judy array Fred, magnum - On Sun, Sep 13, 2015 at 08:28:08PM -0700, Fred Wang wrote: > I use a 10-year-old Dell 2950 as my test environment, precisely because it uses slower memory, and more easily shows improvements. For my "standard" test case (MD5, 29 million hashes, a ~13 million entry dictionary, and best64 rules, yielding about 1 billion hash attempts to find about 1.7 million solutions) > > hashcat 3 minute 54 seconds > mdxfind 1 minute 15 seconds (Judy only) > mdxfind 47 seconds (Current code, Bloom filter + Judy) Fred - is this with the original best64 rules you e-mailed me, or with the cut-down version with only JtR-compatible rules left in it (14 rules removed)? (BTW, this best64 is currently misnamed since it contains more than 64 rules either way.) magnum - testing this stuff, I see that pot sync is a major bottleneck. Since this is your feature, you might want to benchmark and optimize it some more, or/and maybe we just want it disabled by default when cracking saltless hashes. As it is, it's just not able to handle Fred's "about 1.7 million solutions" in a minute - it takes several minutes to process those guesses, so it becomes the primary bottleneck for the whole run. > Its important to note that this includes the time to read 29M hashes, and store them - this takes about 22 seconds on the test box. The box uses dual E5410 @ 2.33GHz, so 8 cores. I am now running john with your test case on 2x E5420, which is similar (2.5 GHz, though). I'll post more on this soon. Alexander
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