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Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2015 15:25:52 +0300
From: Shinnok <>
Subject: Re: Johnny: core/jumbo differences

> On Jul 31, 2015, at 11:40 PM, Frank Dittrich <> wrote:
> On 07/31/2015 10:17 PM, Mathieu Laprise wrote:
>> Thanks Frank for the documentation, I'll look at those files. If I take
>> prince for example, I see that there are a lot of options in the github
>> issue doc. Do john-devs want Johnny to put all available options in the
>> UI for those 3 modes even if it has risk of confusing less advanced user
>> or we could choose the most important ? We could do it 3 ways:
>> 1) Only add the options relevant to the majority of the users.
>> 2) Add all options in johnny. However, we could separate in two areas
>> (essential options for the mode vs advanced options) (differentiate
>> optional vs essential parameters)
>> 3)Add all options and don't separate them.
> I don't really know what users of johnny expect.
> But I think most users who would prefer johnny over john on the command
> line are best served with hiding much of the complexity.

I'm not sure hiding is the best approach, unless they're some really obscure options not expected to be used in 90% of the cases. We should expose as much as we can in favor of JtR feature completeness and strive to help the user decide if a certain option is good for him or not and where to get more info in regards to it.


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