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Date: Wed, 6 May 2015 22:05:54 +0300
From: Solar Designer <>
Subject: Re: [Johnny] Task 1.4.2 fork and OpenMP

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 06:20:33PM +0300, Shinnok wrote:
> > On 05 May 2015, at 17:06, Solar Designer <> wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 03:22:55PM +0300, Solar Designer wrote:
> >> If we need John to print status, the official way to do so is by sending
> >> it SIGHUP.  This makes it print status and update the .rec/.pot/.log files.
> > 
> > Oh, if Johnny is going to request the status line from John very often,
> > then updating those files each time would be a problem.  We might in
> > fact need to introduce another way, to get only the status line.
> We also need to consider the fact that we can't SIGHUP in Windows.
> What I am thinking of is an --interactive option that allows control and report via standard in/out without the tty middleware.

Makes sense.  I'd reserve the name --interactive for greater interaction
directly with the user, though.  Besides, it clashes with --incremental
for abbreviations.  jumbo has other options starting with i anyway, but
core does not yet, and I have no intent to be adding an option starting
with i yet.

Maybe --no-tty is a better name.

What to do with existing builds of John, though?

> This could then be evolved to include whatever Johnny might require of JtR in the future, while remaining a plain text interface and of possible use for other parties via scripting or wrapping(like Johnny is).



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